ComicConPunch: NYCC Day Two

nycc 2Love them or hate them, conventions have become the industry standard for fan-engagement and giant announcements. Of course, very few fans can make it to any one con. Fortunately, Retcon Punch is there when you can’t be with our exclusive con coverage, ComicConPunch.

Drew: Day two of the NYCC, and the size of this event is starting to sink in. Patrick and I were both overwhelmed by the size of the Javits Center on Thursday, but Friday was when the fans started showing up in earnest, and it was crowded. There were very suddenly lines for events, lines for autographs, lines to use the bathroom (for girls, anyway), which meant we needed to invest significantly more time waiting to do things. It’s absolutely unavoidable for an event this size, but it made me question the utility of having events this size.

Patrick: For sure – it’s like being at an amusement park, only there aren’t any roller coasters. This is true no matter where you are, but it is especially true when you want to engage in some of the BIG PANELS being presented in room E-1 (always, E-1 by the way – if you have to ask, you should be in E-1). Panels are almost always a letdown at cons this size. You get a bunch of “announcements,” but they play more like commercials for upcoming comics than people in-the-know sharing their secrets with you. Those fans Drew mentioned eat that shit up, dutifully applauding whenever someone asks “hey, are you enjoying Forever Evil?” or “who’s excited for the return of Nightcrawler?”

But the real kicker comes in the question portion of the panels. Fans will use the opportunity to literally waste everyone’s time. (This is, mind you, on top of all the time you’re already wasted standing in line for the panel.) Twice, fans approached the microphone and asked “will you sign my comics?” Twice! This is the only time during the con they won’t be signing stuff. And then there are the ridiculously myopic questions: “I’m a big Juggernaut fan, when can I expect to see him again?” The inevitable answer is “stay tuned” but the more honest answer is “we publish 900 X-Men books, so yes, eventually you’ll see Juggernaut again.” Drew, am I being too grumpy here, or does the culture at these panels get toxic fast?

Drew: I don’t think you’re being too grumpy — fan Q and A has long been my least-favorite part of any panel, and it’s frustrating that panels this size seem to be comprised solely of plugging upcoming comics and fan questions. It makes me long for the smaller panels of the Boston Comic Con, where — in lieu of any big announcements — the moderators feel compelled to ask the panelists a few process-oriented questions before turing things over to the fans.

The fan questions are so predictable, we even joked about how someone was sure to ask about bringing Stephanie Brown back, and how it was sure to garner applause from the audience. Sure enough, it happened, but apparently DC was tired of the predictability of that, too, opting to announce that Steph would be returning in the pages of Batman Eternal, a new weekly Batman series that will be “run” by Scott Snyder. It’s an exciting piece of news, but it’s also a bit of a spoiler (no pun intended), which is how I felt about most of the announcements — wouldn’t it be more exciting to actually be surprised by her return? That’s actually how I felt about most of Marvel’s reveals, which largely consisted of new series announcements which give away the endings of Infinity and Battle of the Atom.

Patrick, you were taking notes at all of those panels: care to make any of our readers share in our spoiledness?

Patrick: Eh, I feel like most of the spoilers were in the vein of “such-and-such is still alive.” I think you might be coyly referring to the fate of the Original X-Men, which I suppose I’m happy to share in the spoilage. SPOILER: They stay in the present. Big surprise – the characters that were so popular, we had to arbitrarily travel through time to bring them into current stories, and you’re telling me that they’re too popular to send back to the past? Well, now I’ve heard everything. That spoiliness also allows for the one announcement that I actually got kind of excited about: The Trial of Jean Grey story that will be occupying the pages of Guardians of the Galaxy and All-New X-Men.

But there’s also just a shit-ass-balls-ton of information — information that all the news sites are no doubt tweeting the second it was announced. Sorting through the information live is about as unwieldy as doing so from the comfort of your couch, only… you know, not as comfortable. I was hit with the overwhelming sensation that I know nothing about X-Men, and that there is increasingly little in DC’s line-up that gets me excited.

All Batman and no Batman makes Batman a Batman

If Thursday served to get me excited about reading comics, Friday served the opposite purpose. Drew, do you have a favorite announcement? Or even a least un-favorite?

Drew: I’m actually not sure I do — or at least, nothing more insightful than trying to describe my favorite moment from a fireworks display. I oohed and aahed along with the rest, but ultimately, these were as exciting as solicit announcements tend to be. I suppose the announcement that stood out to me most was the new Avengers World title. Not because it’s anything new — it will actually offset the fewer issues of Avengers, which will stop double-shipping after Infinity — but because of the reason for it: writer Jonathan Hickman simply can’t keep up the pace of writing every damn book. The more he joked about finally being able to go home and sleep in the same bed as his wife, the clearer it became that he wasn’t totally joking. Unlike all of the other announcements, this information wasn’t given to drum up excitement, just to explain a practical change. In an event where everything seems to be focused on the narrative, I was grateful to get any peek behind the curtain.

Whew. That was negative. Well, Saturday looks to have fewer demoralizing panels, which means we should have more time to interact with the writers and artists we came here to meet. It also promises to be less rainy, which should boost our mood in general, right?

Patrick: Probably.

6 comments on “ComicConPunch: NYCC Day Two

  1. Ugh, when is this trial business leaking into Guardians? GotG is the only Marvel title I’m still reading so this announcement sucks for me if it means either I’ll only get half a story for a while or I’ll have to read ANXM again.

    Stephanie Brown coming back is good, although it isn’t just about bringing her back, but also treating her right. I mean, I love Harley Quinn, and she’s IN the new 52, but so far she’s been treated properly in like 4-5 issues tops over the course of 2 years, so I hope that Steph not only is featured, but is characterized intelligently. I wonder if she’ll eventually take over the role of Batgirl again; obviously I doubt she’ll hold to it but Babs seems intent on quitting the role. Time will tell.

    Lastly, and this was in yesterday’s recap, but FUCK YES Booch/Manapul on DetCom!! This is the announcement I’m most excited for thus far, after watching Flashpoint Paradox and getting interested in The Flash I got caught up on their whole run and I LOVE what they’re doing there, so I’m thrilled to see them take the reins on my favorite hero.

  2. I’ve never been a fan of Stephanie, myself. While I like that Batman has issues, she represents everything that was wrong with how Batman was treated and characterized in the late 90s and early 00s. He stopped having nuance and went from being a stoic and obsessive, but equally heroic and inspiring, character to a raging jackass who often seemed only to exist to be the big bully to whom all the sidekick-type characters need to stand up. If this new version of Stephanie doesn’t lean that heavily on that then I welcome her reintroduction, but if it just brings back the “Batjerk” that the scans-daily folks still harp on to this day, I will have rather her overly vocal fans hadn’t gotten their way.

    • I wasn’t a huge fan of her as Spoiler or Robin (though I didn’t mind her) but I really liked her in her run as Batgirl, if you’ve never read it you should check it out, it’s really cool. And it features none of what you mention above, seeing as it takes place while Bruce is “dead” so the few times Steph runs into Batman it’s Dick Grayson she’s dealing with.

      • Well yeah, it’s not as though I hate her so much as I hate the primary source of drama that many writers seemed to provide for her. I have checked out a bit of her time as Batgirl and it does appear to be the time where she gelled best as a character, though even then one of her last big moments was slapping Bruce in the face. I think Snyder and Tynion have done some damn good work in Gotham so far, I just hope they don’t decide Stephanie and Bruce constantly being at odds in a manufactured way that makes Bruce out to be some bully is essential to her character.

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