Green Lantern: New Guardians 15

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Today, Patrick and Drew are discussing New Guardians 15, originally released December 19th, 2012. This issue is part of the Rise of the Third Army crossover event. Click here for complete Third Army coverage. 

Patrick: Everyone experiences loss at one point or another. And your response to that loss is usually sadness. “Sadness” isn’t part of the Green Lantern emotional spectrum — not active enough to dramatize. We’ve seen this weird little problem before (take last week’s Green Lantern Corps for example), but it always ends up feeling like the character appeals back to whatever emotion suits them. John regrets blowing up a planet, he’s going to will the thing back together; Atrocitus misses his family, he’s going to rage all over the bad guys. But as the All Color Lantern, Kyle Rayner can show what the proper response to loss is: all those awful emotions at once. Too bad there’s so much loss to be had. [Especially if you’re a Green Lantern fan, you should know: there be SPOILERS after the jump.]

This issue starts off as the continuing adventures of Kyle Rayner: Emotion Collector (gotta catch ’em all). Kyle, with his two bestest buddies Star Sapphire Carol Ferris and Yellow Lantern Arkillo in tow, descends on planet Okaara to learn the emotion of Avarice from Larfleeze, but are first greeted by former Guardian Sayd. (If that’s too many wacky proper nouns for you, I’m sorry, Green Lantern books are just written this way.) This has sort of become the pattern for New Guardians in the last couple months: go to location X, learn emotion Y from character Z. But before they finish their transaction, our characters are set upon by the imposing — but heretofore not all that immediately threatening — Third Army. Everyone uses their Level 4 Limit Breaks against the Thirdies, but to no avail, so Sayd tells Kyle to teleport everyone else to safety — she will hold off the threat. Kyle complies. The issue closes as the Guardians, including Ganthet, callously watch the Third Army rip Sayd into a thousand fleshy pieces.

Let’s. Start. There.

Sayd is killed by the third army

I know the Guardians have been pointlessly evil since the reboot. Further, I know that Sayd’s been marginalized as Larfleeze has drifted out of the limelight. But I learned to love comic books during War of Light (or whatever we’re calling the years-long lead-up to and aftermath of Blackest Night), and Sayd and Ganthet were instrumental players in the broadening roles of the emotional spectrum. I know, intellectually, that those developments are actually the work of comic book creators — people like Geoff Johns and Peter Tomasi (who were writing Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps at the time) and built on foundations laid down by people like Alan Moore. But in my heart, Sayd and Ganthet brought the emotion spectrum to life. But I know that’s not the case for everyone — particularly my partner on this article — so I’m interested to hear whether Sayd’s death meant as much to Drew as it did to me.

This issue was as much about Love as it was about Avarice. Curiously, a lot of the emotions seem to have Love behind them somewhere. Maybe this is because Carol has become one of the main players in this series, but it might speak to larger truths about the Green Lantern Universe. There’s a great sequence in the middle of the issue where Carol uses her powers to learn about Larfleeze’s lost family. The violet power manifests itself as a crystaline structure, one that appears rigid, but also prone to shattering. Andy Kudder shows both the strength of this power with the edges crumbling (not just the fracturing on the panel – look toward the bottom).

That's the power of LOVELet’s not forget that we get a weird little moment at the beginning of the issue wherein the Zamarons observe the carnage brought on by the Third Army and do nothing. They all but say “ew, gross, let’s not touch it,” before deciding to mind their own business. The most powerful creatures in the Universe are ignoring their emotional compasses, and Tony Bedard is sharp enough to show us this on multiple scales — the Zamaron look the other way as the Spider Guild is assimilated, the Guardians watch their Third Army take over the Universe, and Ganthet looks on dispassionately as his friend is murdered.

Not so inactive are our lesser characters. Kyle’s band of New New Guardians is shaping up to be awesome: Larfleeze, Carol and Arkillo are all stomping around with him now. Arkillo was on the team for the last go-round but Carol and Larfleeze are clear trades-up from Fatality and Glomulous (R.I.P. Glommy). Kyle, himself, is becoming a more dynamic and interesting Lantern, as each new emotion he inherits makes him a little less reliable. Carol has to reign him in — reminding him that having all these powers is great and all, but you have to feel these feelings. It’s hard to wrap out heads around what it means for our heroes to be leveraging concepts like “Will” or “Love” to use their powers, but its neat to see the negative consequences thereof. I love seeing Kyle’s emotions manifest as his powers. Like when Carol tells him to cool down, he responds with fear — made tangible through a yellow snake-attack.

Kyle responds with Fear

Incidentally, there’s a part of Blackest Night that explains the origins of each part of the spectrum, and the origin of Avarice appears to be a snake in an apple tree — a clear allusion to Original Sin in Genesis. I don’t know if this snake attack is a direct reference to that, or just a fun creative way Kyle thought to attack Carol. Either way: pretty cool.

I almost don’t believe how well this issue manages both the gigantic Universe-at-war elements and the quiet personal moments so well, but it does. I’m starting to feel like I’m reading a New Guardians crossover event and all the other titles are just for color. Drew, help me sort it out: is that just the Green Lantern ultra-fan in me saying that or has this series found emotional and thematic resonance that the other Rise of the Third Army titles have not?

Drew: This is without a doubt my favorite of the Green Lantern group, and while I may be a little more forgiving of GL and GLC (but not Red Lanterns — that book is a shit-show), I think you’re right on the money in suggesting that Kyle’s newfound dynamism is really making this series come alive. This title endeared itself to me quickly early on thanks to its goofy team dynamics, but without an emotional anchor, it was hard to get too invested. At the time, I was happy for high-flying space action, so I didn’t mind too much, but now that I’ve got a taste for a closer, more personal story, it’ll be damn near impossible to go back.

Kyle’s emotional journey has been a fascinating one, and seems to be circling his own loss. I know Alex DeWitt’s death represents a lot of bad things about the way comics treat female characters, but Bedard’s doubling down here doesn’t feel exploitative at all. In fact, seeing Kyle’s rage over it in issue 13 and Carol’s use of Alex in this issue is downright respectful (or, at least as respectful as visions of a dead loved one can be).

Alex and Kyle

Carol would have been the logical first teacher for Kyle, but she knows that love will be the hardest emotion for him to confront. Her fears seem well-grounded when Kyle totally flies off the handle. She doesn’t even seem that surprised that it was possible, musing that this was more a matter of timing.

Kyle gets too organge too fast

If he can’t handle avarice, how the heck is he going to be able to control love? Kyle’s emotionality makes him the ideal candidate for Rainbow Lanternship, but it also puts him at high risk for losing himself in those emotions. It’s like method acting on steroids.

Man, I really can’t get over the art in this issue. Aaron Kuder’s evocative linework paired with Wil Quintana’s detailed coloring yields some incredible art. The closeups especially have a tactile quality, so that you can almost feel the heat coming off of the characters. I’m sure there are purists out there who find the colors over-rendered, but I think they’re brilliantly effective. It’s interesting to think how this title might look if we were using the printing techniques of 20 years ago.

As for Sayd, I’m sure her death was less significant for me, but this series has done a pretty good job of demonstrating exactly what was lost here, and what it means for our principal players. More than anything, I understood that it may have awoken something in Ganthet.

Ganthet is the sentimental type

At the very least, we’re given a hint that there might be something worth saving in Ganthet, after all. It seems that love is everyone’s achilles heel in this issue — Larfleeze, Kyle, and Ganthet all seem to lose some composure when faced with it. That may feel a little reductive, but love is a damn compelling emotion. I can’t wait to see how Kyle handles confronting his issues next month.

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18 comments on “Green Lantern: New Guardians 15

  1. I can’t believe they killed Sayd. Patrick and I made the War of Light journey together, and I was crushed when Sayd agreed to be a Guardian of the Orange. I’m a total sap when it comes to a good tragic romance, and this is like the Grand High King of the Mountain of Romantic Tragedy. No matter how Rainbow-powered Kyle becomes, if there’s anything to save Ganthet it will be Love, and that is both awesome and totally heart-breaking.

    • This is only going to start Strange Conversations, but how do we characterize the relationship between Sayd and Ganthet? Obviously they were close, and Kyle makes a few cracks about Sayd being his “girlfriend,” but I don’t know if their relationship is sexual. Is that even a thing the Guardians do? (Yes, I’m asking if the Guardians have genitals – THIS IS WHAT I THINK ABOUT.)

      On a much more abstract avenue of questioning: does it make their relationship less significant if its sexual? Does it make their love less important?

      • I don’t think so. While my instinct says their relationship was not sexual, if it was I don’t think that would lessen what they had at all. From the flashback it seems like it started as an experiment in exploring their emotions, so I imagine their feelings for each other stayed just that: feelings.

        Also, thinking about the Guardians having sex kinda weirds me out.

        • Shelby nails it. Also, isn’t there something about the Zamorons being the females of the Guardian species? Based on this foggy recollection of stuff that could have been retconned away, anyway, I’m going to go ahead and suggest that Sayd wasn’t a female (at least, not biologically). I don’t think that has anything to do with whether she and Ganthet were sexual partners, but it does suggest that the Guardians do, in fact, have genitals.

        • The Zamarons and the Guardians were once the male and female versions of some kind of forerunner to each species. They spit off a long time ago and then sort of evolved separately (though, you know, that kind of sci-fi evolution that happens within a single generation). The Guardians used to be tall – just like the Zamarons still are.

          There is a cute parallel between experimenting with feelings and the giddy thrill of experimenting with sexuality. It made me chuckle – and that is in no way creepy nor should it change the way you view me.

  2. The colors in this thing are incredible. It’s nice that there’s an in-narrative reason for everything to be so bright and colorful (colors other than green… cause… y’know…). I didn’t really throw my editorial weight behind Kudder’s art, but I love the way it straddles the line of cartooniness and realistic. That’s probably the single scariest drawing I’ve seen of Larfleeze (in that 2nd image you posted).

    • Yeah, this series really takes full advantage of modern color printing technology. I honestly can’t imagine what this series would look like if it were colored more traditionally (though I suppose it’s just as weird to imagine a “classic” colored like this).

      It’s actually the closeups of Larfleeze that really got me. I honestly feel like I know what it would be like to touch him. Their sense of texture is impeccable.

    • Yeah, that was weird. I’m chalking that up to the reboot resetting continuity, but still, if Kyle wasn’t the “last” Green Lantern and wasn’t the one who restarted the Corps, does that mean that Hal was never possessed by Parallax and never destroyed the Corps? And that Coast City was never destroyed? We already basically know that Superman never died either, so that’s all in question.

      DC acted like Lantern continuity was basically the same as it had always been, but it looks like a lot more has been changed than we thought.

      • Waitwaitwait, we know that Superman never died? Then why was he all like “Hey Alec Holland, I know how hard it is to come back from the dead” in Swamp Thing #1?

        As far as Kyle appearing on a fully-functional Oa, I think the N52 take on the character is that he’s kinda just been a regular ol’ lantern, and it’s not until he’s given this chance to do this multi-emotional stuff that he gets to be a special lantern. I still believe that Hal was possessed by Parallax, (and subsequently killed like everyone) but I don’t think Kyle was ever Ion. And actually, now that I type that out, I don’t think ANY of the emotional entities have been mentioned at all in the N52… someone check me on that.

        And as a final note on why there’s no mention of it here: the impulse when talking about comics is almost always to not continuity changes, which can be fun, but usually comes at the expense of talking about what happened in the issue itself. Comments are a perfect place for us to hash that stuff out – thanks for bringing it up Justin!

        • Hm, for some reason I thought that I had read something that had implied that the Death of Superman had never happened, but seeing how I don’t remember what it was, and you have that quote there, I suppose I’m wrong. Thanks for pointing it out!

        • Things are very muddy concerning the Death Of Superman – because if it happened (which has been refenced in Swamp Thing and confirmed by writers at panels) then how exactly did it happen? I mean Ma and Pa Kent were dead before Clark moved to Metropolis now, and he wouldn’t have even been on a single date with Lois before he died. Trying to picture a Death Of Superman that occurred in the 5-year gap gives me a very lonely picture that would be in stark contrast with the events of Superman #75 (Ma and Pa in front of the TV holding each other, Lois in anguish holding his body). I flat out don’t see the point of retaining it. Unless Morrison’s Superdoom story will result in the New 52 Death Of Superman within the next 2 issues. But, if that doesn’t happen, then I flat out reject a Death Of Superman that we never see but is implied to have happened the way it would have had to.

        • And for that matter, the whole resurrection of Superman with the Four Replacement Supermen story is completely incompatible with the reboot, since both Steel and Superboy’s origins have been completely altered and moved away from that event (and in Superboy’s case, he didn’t exist until long after the time that Superman’s death would have happened).

          I guess we just have to think that, at some point, Superman died, likely at the hands of Doomsday, and eventually came back to life. It probably involved the destruction of Coast City and the creation of Parallax. That’s literally all I think we can assume to be true at this point.

        • It really guts the story of its emotional impact, though – almost none of Superman’s key relationships were in tact during the 5-year gap. Hell, Supergirl hadn’t even arrived on earth. He really had no family at all after the Kents passing. Funeral For A Friend and A World Without A Superman both hinge on his long history many relationships; all of the emotional things that make Death Of Superman an important story would be marginalized so that the fact he died is basically just a marking on an already-confusing DCnU timeline. Now, if they want to bother to actually show the events of a New 52 Death Of Superman in Action and they can make it work as a story then more power to them

        • This kind of problem is pretty typical of the reboot, where certain events still happened, but obviously not the way we’re familiar with. I think I’ve read that Batman: Year One is still canon, but it simply doesn’t fit with the Gordon’s current family history. In the new continuity, Babs is Jim and Barbara’s biological daughter, so she would have been around during the events of that story. I think it’s important to Jim’s emotional state that its his only child that is in danger at the end of that story. Either way, though, I’m pretty sure the James Jr. running around Gotham right now is older than five.

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